In the expansive and often dark universe of the Roblox game Forsaken (and its iteration Forsaken Plus), few character dynamics are as emotionally charged or historically rooted as the animosity between Elliot and 007n7. To understand why Elliot harbors such a visceral, unyielding hatred for 007n7, one must look past the immediate dystopian setting of the game and delve into the meta-history of Roblox hacking, the tragic destruction of a simple pizza shop, and the complex relationship between a father and his digital creation.

At its core, Elliot's hatred stems from the complete and catastrophic destruction of his workplace—the iconic Work at a Pizza Place—caused by 007n7 and his infamous creation/alternate persona, c00lkidd. This event did more than just leave Elliot unemployed; it shattered his sense of security and transformed a polite, service-oriented individual into a man consumed by the need for retribution.

The Tragedy of the Pizza Place

To grasp the magnitude of Elliot's resentment, we first need to look at who Elliot was before the world became "Forsaken." In the original lore, Elliot was a dedicated employee and mascot for one of Roblox's most beloved classic games, Work at a Pizza Place. He was the quintessential survivor of a simpler era, characterized by his unwavering politeness and commitment to customer service.

Everything changed during a period of massive instability in the Roblox community, specifically around 2014. During this time, the infamous hacker group known as "Team c00lkidd" began a campaign of terror across the platform. Using a malicious script known as "c00lgui," they targeted high-profile games to display their power and cause chaos.

007n7 is widely recognized in both real-world Roblox history and Forsaken lore as the mastermind behind this chaos. He created the c00lkidd account and developed the scripts that allowed for the mass manipulation of game environments. When these hackers set their sights on the pizza restaurant, the destruction was absolute. For Elliot, this wasn't just a technical glitch or a game reset; it was the loss of his home, his livelihood, and the community he served. He views 007n7 not just as a player who broke rules, but as the architect of a catastrophe that ended an era of peace.

Who is 007n7 in the Eyes of Elliot?

In the context of Forsaken, 007n7 is depicted as a complex figure—a former exploiter who now experiences profound guilt. However, for Elliot, 007n7’s attempts at redemption are irrelevant. To Elliot, 007n7 represents the ultimate betrayal of the "rules" of their world.

007n7 is based on the real creator of Team c00lkidd, a group that would enter servers, turn the sky red, and replace textures with the disembodied face of Thomas the Tank Engine (an image that still appears on 007n7’s torso in Forsaken). In the lore, 007n7 is also the adoptive father of c00lkidd. This familial link adds another layer to Elliot's hatred. Elliot blames 007n7 for failing to control his "son" or, worse, for actively teaching him the destructive arts that led to the pizza place's downfall.

Elliot’s interactions with 007n7 in the game are marked by extreme hostility. While Elliot maintains a facade of politeness with other survivors, that mask slips the moment 007n7 is mentioned or present. He is dismissive, rude, and frequently brings up the past, ensuring that 007n7 can never escape the shadow of his previous crimes.

The Role of c00lkidd: The Weapon of Destruction

If 007n7 is the architect, c00lkidd was the wrecking ball. In Forsaken lore, c00lkidd is portrayed as the son of 007n7 who went rogue. The destructive rampage led by c00lkidd was fueled by the tools 007n7 provided.

For Elliot, there is no distinction between the creator and the creation. He sees the "c00lgui" scripts—which 007n7 still carries in a modified form within the game—as the very weapons that murdered his way of life. When c00lkidd rampaged through the pizza shop, it wasn't just about deleting bricks; it was a violent upheaval of the order Elliot cherished. The trauma of watching his workplace be torn apart by a "hacker kid" has left Elliot with a form of digital PTSD, making him paranoid and quick to distrust anyone who wields power they didn't earn.

The Broken Trust: A Headcanon Perspective

While the official lore focuses on the destruction of the pizza place, a popular community interpretation (or headcanon) suggests that the hatred is personal. In this version of the story, Elliot was one of the few people who actually defended 007n7 when he first arrived at the pizza shop.

According to this theory, rumors were circulating about 007n7’s past as an exploiter, but Elliot chose to see the good in him. He reportedly looked out for 007n7, sharing food and even helping care for c00lkidd. This makes the eventual betrayal significantly more painful. When the hacking incident occurred, Elliot didn't just see a stranger attacking his shop; he saw a "friend" weaponizing his kindness. This perceived breach of trust is why Elliot's anger is so much sharper toward 007n7 than it is toward other potentially dangerous characters in the Forsaken universe.

How the Hatred Manifests in Gameplay

The rivalry between Elliot and 007n7 isn't just flavor text; it is deeply embedded in the mechanics and interactions of Forsaken.

Dialogue and Quests

As an NPC quest giver in the dystopian ruins, Elliot often tasks players with recovering remnants of his past life—pizza toppings, kitchen tools, or old records. Throughout these quests, his dialogue is peppered with biting remarks about "the hacker" or "the one who ruined everything." If a player interacts with Elliot while playing as 007n7 (who is a playable survivor), the dialogue shifts to reflect deep-seated resentment. Elliot might refuse to provide the same level of assistance or offer backhanded compliments that highlight 007n7’s guilt.

007n7’s Skill Set and Elliot’s Reaction

007n7’s abilities in the game are direct nods to his hacking past:

  • Dex (Passive): The ability to see the furthest spawn point, mimicking "ESP" hacks.
  • Clone: Creating a duplicate of himself to deceive the killer, a classic exploit technique.
  • c00lgui (Teleportation): Using a tablet to warp across the map.

Elliot views these abilities with utter contempt. To him, every time 007n7 teleports or creates a clone, he is using the same "filthy cheats" that destroyed the pizza shop. While these skills help 007n7 survive against the killers in the Forsaken world, to Elliot, they are a constant reminder of the unfair advantage 007n7 used to ruin the lives of honest workers.

The Contrast in Personalities

The dynamic between the two is also a study in personality contrasts.

  • Elliot: He is the "Polite Server." Even in the ruins of a dystopian world, he tries to maintain a sense of decorum. He is a human worker who values hard work, hierarchy, and service. His rage is "cold"—it is a simmering resentment that hides behind a smile until it boils over.
  • 007n7: He is a "Guilt-Ridden Survivor." He is often depicted as nervous, unconcerned, or frantic (depending on his health). He is polite in his interactions with others, perhaps to overcompensate for his past. He is the only survivor who never appears truly happy when emoting, signifying his internal struggle.

This contrast makes their conflict more poignant. 007n7 wants to move forward and be part of the survivor group, but Elliot acts as the moral anchor of the past, refusing to let the group forget the sins of the "Old World."

The Psychological Impact of Loss

Why can't Elliot just move on? To understand this, we have to look at the concept of "identity" in the Roblox ecosystem. For many classic NPCs and characters, their identity is tied to their function. Elliot wasn't just "Elliot"; he was "The Pizza Guy."

When 007n7 (via c00lkidd) destroyed the pizza place, he effectively deleted Elliot's identity. In the Forsaken universe, Elliot is struggling to redefine himself in a world where there are no more pizzas to serve and no more customers to greet. This loss of purpose is a profound trauma. While 007n7 has the skills to survive (hacking tools), Elliot only has his memories and his rage. His hatred for 007n7 is the only thing that keeps his original identity alive. If he forgives 007n7, he admits that the "Pizza Guy" is truly dead, and he isn't ready to let go of that part of himself.

Why Does the Roblox Community Care?

The feud between Elliot and 007n7 resonates with players because it mirrors the real history of the platform. Many long-time Roblox players remember the 2014-2015 era when Team c00lkidd was a legitimate threat to the stability of their favorite games. Seeing this real-world drama translated into a character-driven horror game adds a layer of "meta-horror" that is rare in the genre.

For older players, Elliot represents the nostalgia for "Old Roblox"—a simpler time of work simulations and social gathering. 007n7 represents the disruptive force of technology and the loss of innocence that comes with the realization that even digital worlds can be destroyed. The conflict isn't just about two characters; it's about the clash between tradition and disruption.

Summary of the Conflict

The tension between Elliot and 007n7 is one of the most compelling narratives in Forsaken. It is built on:

  1. Historical Grievance: The literal destruction of Work at a Pizza Place by c00lkidd's scripts.
  2. Parental Responsibility: Elliot holding 007n7 accountable for the actions of his "son" and the tools he created.
  3. Ideological Clash: The honest worker versus the shortcut-taking hacker.
  4. Personal Betrayal: The possibility that Elliot once trusted 007n7 only to be let down.

As long as Elliot remains in the ruins of the Forsaken world, he will likely never forgive 007n7. His hatred is his shield, protecting him from a world that has already taken everything else away.

Frequently Asked Questions

What exactly did c00lkidd do to Elliot's pizza place?

In the lore, c00lkidd used the "c00lgui" exploit to manipulate the game's code, deleting structures, changing the environment, and making the game unplayable. This "rampage" is the specific event that led to the permanent closure of the shop in Elliot's timeline.

Is 007n7 still a hacker in the game Forsaken?

In the gameplay of Forsaken, 007n7 is a survivor, not a killer or an active hacker. However, his abilities are themed around his past exploits, such as teleporting and cloning. He uses these skills now to evade the killers rather than to destroy games.

Can Elliot and 007n7 ever reconcile?

Within the current lore and NPC interactions, there is no evidence of reconciliation. Elliot remains hostile, and 007n7 remains guilty. In some fan-made endings or "Forsaken Plus" scenarios, players can influence their relationship through quests, but the "canon" state is one of permanent animosity.

Why is 007n7's son, c00lkidd, not the main target of Elliot's hate?

Elliot does hate c00lkidd, but in many versions of the lore, c00lkidd has gone missing or is a less "sentient" force of nature compared to 007n7. 007n7 is the one who created the tools and is present to face Elliot's wrath. Elliot views 007n7 as the root cause of the problem.

Does 007n7 try to apologize to Elliot?

Yes, in various character interactions, 007n7 is shown to be polite and expressive of his guilt. He acknowledges the damage he caused, but Elliot's typical response is to dismiss the apology as "too little, too late."

Conclusion

The feud between Elliot and 007n7 is a masterpiece of environmental and meta-storytelling within the Roblox community. It transforms a simple gameplay mechanic into a tragic tale of loss, betrayal, and the consequences of one's actions. Whether you view 007n7 as a villain seeking redemption or Elliot as a man blinded by his past, their conflict provides a deep emotional core to the Forsaken experience, reminding players that in the digital world, the scars of the past never truly fade.